swlincdrv

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Lincoln
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 10:33:16 PM
Thanks captain obvious.
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judgemobile

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 10:30:21 PM
Tell Mr Toyoda--simple safety items apparently escaped him.
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JohnLev

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 10:21:46 PM
"Because drag increases with the square of speed, more than twice as much energy would be required to overcome drag at 70 mph."
I am an aerospace engineer and this statement is false. The aerodynamic drag increases by the CUBE of speed (velocity). So doing the math, going from 48 mph to 70 mph is about a 45% increase in speed and about 3 times the aerodynamic drag. However, aerodynamic drag is not the only force that has to be overcome; there is also rolling friction in the tires, friction in the axle and engine. These forces at lower speeds are greater than the aerodynamic force but don't increase as quickly.
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TBRR

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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 10:20:27 PM
driving at 55 mph will get you many more miles per tank full than at 75 which uses about 45% more fuel. you will get where you are going about the same time with less ware and tear on you vehicle. just don't do it in the left lane, be smart and stay in the right lane and see how many times you have to hit the brakes.
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Lukus

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Halifax
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 10:15:17 PM
Newer Hybrids will be better but with Solar they could be even better.
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DosEquis26

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 10:06:04 PM
I can't drive 55! Sing it!
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AtascaderoHound

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California
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 10:03:29 PM
I have found simply reducing my average highway speed has dramatically increase fuel efficiency. Maybe I'll have to look at drag coefficient during my next car purchase cycle.
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beachbumCA

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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:56:14 PM
But, the real question is, will we drive more miles when we have fuel efficiency. I think the real world answer is yes.
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FordF2502001

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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:50:56 PM
If people wanted aero that would be a different story
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fordmexico

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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:48:20 PM
Car makers have been at this for a while. Knowledge was gained not only in the wind tunnel but also at the track with NASCAR. When you look at the front of a car you will see a front air dam on most vehicles. This was added to make the vehicle more "slippery" as well as to add to the styling. Under vehicle airflow has also been studied in an attempt to make the vehicle more aerodynamically efficient. Combine this with "eco-tuned" engine controls, clean diesels or gas hybrids and you have the elements of better fuel economy.
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Bubba44612

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:46:38 PM
Lets get them for sale and we can all reap the rewards of better MPG's.
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zdn

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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:43:50 PM
amazing math skills
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comprof

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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:42:42 PM
Very informative article. Good Post!!
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plebe2001de

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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:40:46 PM
That's not new!
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:38:13 PM
save save save
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hwnguy

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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:36:50 PM
Anything to save energy
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ILANGE9

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:34:07 PM
I have a Honda Civic Hybrid and its pretty areo. Didn't realize how severe drag was on a vehicle.
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packards42

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Washington
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:33:49 PM
Sound reasonable check our a corvette coefficient. As i rcal in either at.2 or below it.
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fltdoc

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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:30:23 PM
Good physics lesson
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MidNJ

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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:29:23 PM
Seems futuristic.
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danreino

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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:27:46 PM
Wasn't Saturn the first car company to really start boasting about this ?
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