honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 7:30:19 AM
bart, funny how it was so touted to bring jobs and money to the US if it were built right then and there. And everyone clamored for it. But, it was always a bit of a red flag to me that TransCanada was pushing so hard - slowly it's emerging why... so we wouldn't have known all the details until it was too late.
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1006

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Birmingham
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 6:48:55 AM
makes a lot of sense doesnt it
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bart_reed

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 3:02:57 AM
You'll have to drive to South America to buy gasoline from the Canadian Tar Sands. The Keystone pipeline is planned to carry the oil directly from Canada to Texas refineries located in a special "tax free" zone. Once refined into diesel and gasoline it will be exported to South America, avoiding all taxation. America gets the crude oil pipeline spills and refinery pollution, but not one drop of the fuel. There is an excess of existing pipeline capacity to bring that Canadian crude into the U.S., but they all run to Midwest refineries supplying the U.S. market -- and the production would be taxed. The Keystone pipeline aims to avoid all taxation, not reduce our dependency on Arab oil.
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numbers

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North Dakota
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2012 4:48:23 PM
We could use our own pipeline to help us both supply and employment wise - we don't need to give more of our money to the middle east
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tomok

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Portland
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2012 3:04:56 AM
Canada can build their own pipeline, build their own refineries, produce their own fuel so their citizens could have cheaper fuel prices. But, the US and Canada want to sell the oil and fuel to the highest bidder, to make the most money from the world oil and fuel market. It would be in the best interest of both governments to lower the price of fuel and natural gas for the benefit of both countries population. Instead, they export it to the world for sale, Go figure! The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
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Colts13

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:17:08 PM
ok
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Ahking

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:14:32 PM
Can they build the refineries in Alberta?
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GasholeMI

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:13:43 PM
I agree with tnfran.
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frostyWV

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:13:01 PM
ok
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Bubba44612

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:12:52 PM
Good deal.
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umitb

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:12:01 PM
ok
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rawdog1313

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:11:09 PM
Whatever.......
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Buddy2264

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:10:49 PM
I do not understand why Canada does not keep more of their oil at home and lower their own prices.
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NO_SWEAT

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:10:44 PM
We need a miracle like this - we can also have open season on the $peculators.
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carpenter4u

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:10:43 PM
I do know it is not headed to the US
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tedjm1

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New York
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:08:10 PM
Okay.
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biza4u

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New Haven
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:07:14 PM
To where
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JENNYHK

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:07:03 PM
Good for Canadians
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herndonks

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:06:47 PM
Good
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1cheapgasin

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:03:39 PM
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twiper1

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:02:56 PM
great
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SUSANCK

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:59:04 PM
Wish we were benefitting too
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Bezalel

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:55:57 PM
rerun? Same title yesterday, same content
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Throroughbred

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:53:09 PM
Interesting.
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bonzoonfmb

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Florida
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:52:46 PM
The supply will always go to the highest bidder.
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bif65

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:51:36 PM
ok
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:49:59 PM
bring it on
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LCSTEELERBOB

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Gary
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:49:50 PM
to bad this is not helping us more
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pse91

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Calgary
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:47:59 PM
Let Eastern Canada have the oil. The price is too high for the USA at this time.
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tnfran

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:35:38 PM
So sad we don't have some "Leaders in DC " that could "SEE" that it would be better to get more of our crude from Canada than from the OPEC nations.
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suzmar

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Texas
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:33:47 PM
Everyone wants the oil, they just don't want any of the infrastructure that comes with it.
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GigHarborHound

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Tacoma
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:28:51 PM
Yessssss!
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danreino

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:26:26 PM
Por Favor o' Alberta Minister.
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CorvairHaven

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:26:21 PM
OK
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edwlor1

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New Haven
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:23:00 PM
maybe the usa should start taking care of its own with its own oil and stop subsidizing the oil companies who are taking every last cent the working people have. we could tap into what we have and let the middle east sit on what they have until they realize if they want the profits, they have to be reasonable
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tippybuddy

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:22:01 PM
flowing south is such a good idea...looking forward to that happening
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nwsynthetics

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:21:06 PM
Yes! Flow it down this way. The cheaper, the better.
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SpankyMI

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Kalamazoo
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:15:24 PM
It would be nice to have some start flowing south to.
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abcdMA

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Worcester
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:15:07 PM
it would be nice to see some of that oil flow south as well
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Lukus

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Halifax
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:13:56 PM
Be great to see some oil coming east. It might help to stablize prices as well.
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silverfoxv65

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:13:00 PM
Yes make it happen.
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MJIOWA

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:09:18 PM
make it happen
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warlord1

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:05:44 PM
ok
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monieet

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California
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:05:18 PM
Ok
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Mowerman08

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:03:45 PM
Duh.
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skyking19

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Little Rock
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:02:57 PM
ok
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onegiraffeAL

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:01:11 PM
ok
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19sheldon43

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:01:09 PM
I guess they are going to keep it in Canada
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Blue48

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:00:04 PM
CRAZY CANADIANS!
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judgemobile

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2012 9:58:52 PM
if supply is UP, price should be DOWN...right or wrong ??
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